i bought some out of date film to try out a camera out of a collection i have i used a faulty zenith e and took some good photos for my first attempt. but because one of the speed settings were faulty the "lab" at max speilman butchered my negatives so i decided to find a way to do my own. i have only used caffenol c so far with some industrial strength acietic acid and white vinegar at first as a stop. and sodium thiosulphate as a fix. my 3 main cameras i use are zenith e, canon ae1 and a ricoh kr10 super. ive used a couple others out my collection.